- [Kevin] I mean, it's tough. It was really tough just seeing that and seeing where I was and where Ben Petrzilka, who was one of the Scouts who passed, and I had come to known him 'cause he was in the patrol kinda next to me, and we were sitting right next to each other. So that was really tough. And just, I mean, I couldn't believe that something like that would happen to you. I dunno. It felt like a dream, I guess, almost.