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<v Speaker 0>I'm gonna move people around on my screen, so forgive

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<v Speaker 0>me if I'm looking away at the, um, not necessarily

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<v Speaker 0>looking straight ahead, OK?

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<v Speaker 0>Um.

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<v Speaker 0>I'm going to talk about this session real quick.

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<v Speaker 0>Uh, you can kind of see the session objectives.

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<v Speaker 0>Basically, this presentation is gonna be broken up into 4

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<v Speaker 0>parts.

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<v Speaker 0>The first part is going to be describing kind of

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<v Speaker 0>the history of kind of our country, uh, as far

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<v Speaker 0>as how we've gotten here regarding connection and community.

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<v Speaker 0>Uh, the second part is gonna be honing in a

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<v Speaker 0>little bit more about.

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<v Speaker 0>Uh, social media and AI and kind of how we

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<v Speaker 0>got to this point, generative AI, and then the third

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<v Speaker 0>part is gonna be about some, uh, critical considerations for

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<v Speaker 0>youth mental health in the digital, uh, environment that we

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<v Speaker 0>see ourselves in.

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<v Speaker 0>And the last part is gonna be about more, maybe

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<v Speaker 0>some more practical implications for yourselves and whoever you're, uh,

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<v Speaker 0>working with and where whatever setting you're in as a

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<v Speaker 0>helping professional, um, so I'm going to skip this part.

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<v Speaker 0>Introductions, uh.

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<v Speaker 0>Katie did a great job of introducing us.

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<v Speaker 0>I'm gonna skip this part too.

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<v Speaker 0>Here, um, on this slide is the A QR code

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<v Speaker 0>for the actual slides and then also the link to

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<v Speaker 0>the slides.

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<v Speaker 0>I just wanna tell you real quick about this partic

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<v Speaker 0>particular presentation format.

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<v Speaker 0>I'm using something called gamma.

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<v Speaker 0>It's basically my go to presentation format.

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<v Speaker 0>It's gonna be, um, there's gonna be very dense information

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<v Speaker 0>on here.

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<v Speaker 0>I just, there's just a lot to talk about, right?

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<v Speaker 0>But if you actually open up the presentation, you can

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<v Speaker 0>actually click on the links, um, the websites, and I've

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<v Speaker 0>downloaded several documents, research articles, all that stuff is in.

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<v Speaker 0>Here.

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<v Speaker 0>So if you click on those, it will take you

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<v Speaker 0>to the actual sources that we'll talk through, and there's

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<v Speaker 0>a lot of them, OK?

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<v Speaker 0>So, I hope that after, um, today, you can take

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<v Speaker 0>this presentation and kinda go through it more in more

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<v Speaker 0>detail.

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<v Speaker 0>We'll just kinda hit the highlights today, but, um, there's

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<v Speaker 0>a lot to go through, so you can kinda take

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<v Speaker 0>your time later on to kinda go through the things

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<v Speaker 0>that we're talking about today.

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<v Speaker 0>OK, let's do a quick Participant, uh, audience participation real

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<v Speaker 0>quick.

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<v Speaker 0>So if you would, wouldn't mind, let's, um, you can

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<v Speaker 0>use your phone or you can actually click if you're

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<v Speaker 0>on the presentation itself.

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<v Speaker 0>You can click on a form in the center.

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<v Speaker 0>Phone is fine too.

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<v Speaker 0>I just have two questions for you.

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<v Speaker 0>If you wouldn't mind just kinda throwing it in a

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<v Speaker 0>voluntary, uh, of course, only you don't have to participate.

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<v Speaker 0>So the first question is, in one word, how would

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<v Speaker 0>you describe your current feelings about the state of youth

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<v Speaker 0>mental health in relation to digital tech technology?

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<v Speaker 0>So that's number one And the second one Is in

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<v Speaker 0>one word, how would you describe your current feelings?

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<v Speaker 0>Uh, with regarding your mental health as it relates to

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<v Speaker 0>digital technology, OK, I'm just gonna give you a second

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<v Speaker 0>to throw in your word wherever you're at, whatever comes

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<v Speaker 0>up for you, please just go ahead and throw that

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<v Speaker 0>in there.

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<v Speaker 0>And just give us a few seconds to let the

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<v Speaker 0>results, um, I don't think you can click on these

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<v Speaker 0>results.

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<v Speaker 0>This is actually for me, but I'll show you the

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<v Speaker 0>results in real time right here.

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<v Speaker 1>I just wanna add, we see some people putting in

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<v Speaker 1>the chat too, which is great, and I think those

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<v Speaker 1>words in the chat articulate a lot of what the

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<v Speaker 1>words that are popping up on the screen are also.

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<v Speaker 0>Yeah, I appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 0>Yes, please feel free to jump in and chat.

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<v Speaker 0>I, I, we will do our best to kind of

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<v Speaker 0>manage that.

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<v Speaker 0>There's also a Q&A, um, panel that you can jump

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<v Speaker 0>into.

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<v Speaker 0>Worried, this is a word, uh, cloud, of course, so

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<v Speaker 0>the thing, if the words are closely matched, then they

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<v Speaker 0>will kind of get bigger, and the things that are

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<v Speaker 0>a little bit different enough and they will kind of

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<v Speaker 0>have be their own separate word.

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<v Speaker 0>So as far as youth mental health, overwhelmed, worried, detrimental,

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<v Speaker 0>curious, scared, scary.

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<v Speaker 0>Appreciate that pessimistic, saturated.

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<v Speaker 0>Let me jump to the next one.

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<v Speaker 0>The next one is about kind of your mental health

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<v Speaker 0>regarding these things.

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<v Speaker 0>Some similarities there.

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<v Speaker 0>Annoyed, uh, I can, I can respect that.

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<v Speaker 0>Overwhelmed, fine, tired, anxious, apathetic, balancing, complicated, cautious.

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<v Speaker 0>Yeah, great.

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<v Speaker 0>Thank you for your thoughts.

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<v Speaker 0>Please feel free to keep um adding to that.

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<v Speaker 0>And I will, uh, what I, what I will do

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<v Speaker 0>is after this presentation, I'll come take a screenshot of

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<v Speaker 0>that, those, um, word clouds, and I'll put them in

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<v Speaker 0>the presentation as well, OK?

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<v Speaker 0>All right.

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<v Speaker 0>Kind of a history of where we're at today.

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<v Speaker 0>If you have not read Bowling Alone by Robert Putnam,

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<v Speaker 0>I have it right here, and um there's a link

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<v Speaker 0>to the actual book and then his seminal article on

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<v Speaker 0>this.

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<v Speaker 0>Um, and actually, you can actually click on the, uh,

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<v Speaker 0>the pick and then the links that I kind of

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<v Speaker 0>mentioned earlier.

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<v Speaker 0>But let me just give you a high level, um.

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<v Speaker 0>Backstory to kind of where we're at today, all right?

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<v Speaker 0>So.

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<v Speaker 0>Robert Putnam was kind of one of the first ones

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<v Speaker 0>to talk about, to kind of really go into depth

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<v Speaker 0>in researching social capital, um, networks, trust, norms of reciprocity

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<v Speaker 0>that support cooperation and well-being, um, and I'm gonna go

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<v Speaker 0>through this rela relatively quickly, all right, everyone?

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<v Speaker 0>So please feel free to, to throw your questions and

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<v Speaker 0>comments.

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<v Speaker 0>I'd love to hear from all of you.

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<v Speaker 0>US commu uh communities were historically highly interconnected.

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<v Speaker 0>Clubs, churches, PTA unions, informal gatherings, that was just the

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<v Speaker 0>norm a long time ago.

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<v Speaker 0>These connections will linked to better health outcomes, lower crime,

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<v Speaker 0>stronger education systems, more effective democratic participation.

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<v Speaker 0>Things started changing in the 60s and 70s, decline across

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<v Speaker 0>multiple domains of civic life, voting, political participation decreased, attendance

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<v Speaker 0>at community meetings, including churches, um, a lot of these

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<v Speaker 0>organizations decreased, membership in civic organizations decreased, volunteering decreased.

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<v Speaker 0>Informal connection also declined, just gathering with each other, standing

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<v Speaker 0>with each other on the, uh, on your, in your

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<v Speaker 0>yard, talking to each other, gathering on people's porches, that

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<v Speaker 0>sort of thing.

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<v Speaker 0>Fewer people socialize with neighbors, fewer close confidants, increased social

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<v Speaker 0>isolation.

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<v Speaker 0>So, uh, this idea of bowling alone.

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<v Speaker 0>Bowling leagues were one of the huge things that were

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<v Speaker 0>Uh, social trust declined significantly in the in the 1960s

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<v Speaker 0>Television later and then in, in our particular case today,

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<v Speaker 0>Generational shifts, the so-called, uh, greatest generation, there was a,

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<v Speaker 0>uh, highly engaged in ships civic life.

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<v Speaker 0>Post 9/11, there was in uh, Putnam talks about a

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<v Speaker 0>Um, but the rebound from 9/11 was partial and uneven.

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<v Speaker 0>9/11 increased civic awareness, especially among youth.

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<v Speaker 0>Inequity in social connection again.

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<v Speaker 0>For those who have resources, it's easier to connect, as

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<v Speaker 0>And then less connected, lower resource youth, um, lower resource

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<v Speaker 0>And then widening disparities in opportunity, well-being, social belonging.

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<v Speaker 0>And the last thing I'll say, as far as um

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<v Speaker 0>Putnam describes it, where we are now.

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<v Speaker 0>So the decline in social connection was widely recognized, but

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<v Speaker 0>remains largely unresolved.

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<v Speaker 0>institutional policy level solutions.

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<v Speaker 0>I'll talk about all those in a little bit.

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<v Speaker 0>But the bottom line is over the past 150-60 years

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<v Speaker 0>we didn't just change how we spent our time, we

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<v Speaker 0>That shift is a backdrop for everything we're seeing now

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<v Speaker 0>in youth mental health.

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<v Speaker 0>We're all a part of this.

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<v Speaker 0>It's not just about our youth, and it's it's easy

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<v Speaker 0>to blame the huge tech companies and there's a lot

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<v Speaker 0>and all these apps and, um, all these technological resources

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<v Speaker 0>that they have, but we were all a part of

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<v Speaker 0>Some of us have allowed it to happen, some of

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<v Speaker 0>And so, I would just wanna kind of start with

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<v Speaker 0>Um, at the very bottom, I'm gonna bring it up

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<v Speaker 0>here.

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<v Speaker 0>This is a seminal article from, um, Robert Putnam, and

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<v Speaker 0>then here's his book, and then here's the article on

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<v Speaker 0>9/11, and then this is kind of his most recent

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<v Speaker 0>take from 2020.

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<v Speaker 0>This is from the Harvard 2024 from the Harvard Gazette.

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<v Speaker 0>OK.

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<v Speaker 0>That's kind of the bigger cultural shift.

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<v Speaker 0>Let me just talk about real quick, um, kind of

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<v Speaker 0>I'm not gonna talk about the entire technological timeline because

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<v Speaker 0>there's too much to talk about, but I'm gonna specifically

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<v Speaker 0>talk about social media and then, um, generative AI.

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<v Speaker 0>Does anyone remember Friendster?

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<v Speaker 0>I remember hearing about it, but that's all.

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<v Speaker 0>I don't, that new, that, but that was basically the

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<v Speaker 0>first social media slash curation AI that we contacted.

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<v Speaker 0>Um, Tristan Harris from the Center for Humane, uh, Technology,

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<v Speaker 0>which is where I got this timeline from, talks about

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<v Speaker 0>this idea of first contact.

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<v Speaker 0>If you can kinda look in the background.

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<v Speaker 0>Um, that's a screenshot from the movie, The Arrival, um,

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<v Speaker 0>kind of contact with, uh, an alien, uh, species, and

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<v Speaker 0>so he kind of, he kind of, uh, relates this

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<v Speaker 0>Here are the stories on the left hand side here.

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<v Speaker 0>This is what we were promised with social media.

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<v Speaker 0>We're give everyone a voice.

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<v Speaker 0>Connect with their friends, join like-minded communities, enable small, uh,

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<v Speaker 0>medium businesses to reach customers, and all those things.

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<v Speaker 0>We're true.

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<v Speaker 0>Symptoms.

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<v Speaker 0>Here are the incentives that drove those companies to try

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<v Speaker 0>So the incentive for those social media companies at the

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<v Speaker 0>time was for the race for engagement, for your attention.

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<v Speaker 0>I remember, um, uh, watching the social dilemma and the

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<v Speaker 0>uh CEO of Netflix at the time said, Their competition

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<v Speaker 0>or anything.

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<v Speaker 0>Their, their competition was against your sleep.

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<v Speaker 0>Imagine that.

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<v Speaker 0>So, so the purpose and the, the, the thing that

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<v Speaker 0>And so, um, Tristan Harris calls this the idea of

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<v Speaker 0>race to the bottom of the brainstem designed for all

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<v Speaker 0>the things that I'm sure at this point you have

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<v Speaker 0>heard about slot machine rewards, this idea of kind of

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<v Speaker 0>unexpected, um, randomized rewards, infinite scrolling, Doom scrolling was created

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<v Speaker 0>through social media, social comparison, personalized media feeds, beautification filters.

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<v Speaker 0>I could talk about all these things all day.

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<v Speaker 0>Extreme voices and outrage, those are the things that are,

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<v Speaker 0>and then not even just extreme voices and outrage, but

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<v Speaker 0>those are the things that are monetized the most, right?

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<v Speaker 0>Disappearing messages, Snapchat when it first came out, maximum virality,

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<v Speaker 0>particular sites and their, their particular pages as possible.

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<v Speaker 0>And the outcomes, information overload, addiction, or you can kind

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<v Speaker 0>of read through it, deepfakes, breakdown of democracy, fake news,

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<v Speaker 0>capture of the institutions.

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<v Speaker 0>November 30th, 2022, it feels like a millennia ago, but

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<v Speaker 0>it was not that long ago.

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<v Speaker 0>This is when chat GBT released to the public.

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<v Speaker 0>Um, some people call this the CG boundary.

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<v Speaker 0>Basically, C as far as an AI, the AI world.

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<v Speaker 0>So C means curation.

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<v Speaker 0>There's a, it's shifted from curation to generative AI.

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<v Speaker 0>So November 30th was kind of that date.

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<v Speaker 0>Uh, chat GPT, and here are the promises that we

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<v Speaker 0>were sold not long ago, right?

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<v Speaker 0>Here are the stories.

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<v Speaker 0>We, uh, AI will make us more efficient.

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<v Speaker 0>solve climate change, increase GDP, and all those things are

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<v Speaker 0>This is the hard part about these technologies.

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<v Speaker 0>Symptoms creating um defects as well as now uh defects

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<v Speaker 0>in the worst case porn and and a very explicit

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<v Speaker 0>uh AI weakening democracy, fraud crime, take our jobs and

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<v Speaker 0>our IP perpetuates bias.

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<v Speaker 0>We can talk about that all day too as far

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<v Speaker 0>as kind of the algorithmic, uh.

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<v Speaker 0>Programming that happens from the creators of these particular platforms.

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<v Speaker 0>The incentives, what was the incentives here?

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<v Speaker 0>Race to roll out better capabilities and ultimately AGI, uh,

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<v Speaker 0>artificial general intelligence.

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<v Speaker 0>I'm not gonna talk about that, but it really produced,

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<v Speaker 0>um, very unsafe.

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<v Speaker 0>Uh, very unsafe, very uncarefully created AIs, right?

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<v Speaker 0>Race to, to take shortcuts if we don't do this,

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<v Speaker 0>the argument that they would always say, and you hear

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<v Speaker 0>So here are the outcomes from kind of where we're

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<v Speaker 0>Virtual assistants, of course, some of the, you look through

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<v Speaker 0>As far as just kind of um things that are,

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<v Speaker 0>tireless tutors, GDP growth, breakdown of truth though centralization of

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<v Speaker 0>power, loss of meaningful work, attachment disorders we could talk

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<v Speaker 0>in education is probably one of my biggest concerns in

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<v Speaker 0>all of this.

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<v Speaker 0>Um, In the Center of Humane, uh, Center for Humane

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<v Speaker 0>Technology, like they're, they're really trying to figure out how

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<v Speaker 0>we can do this, um, and what is the narrow

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<v Speaker 0>changes specifically with these technologies that are unbelievably powerful, and

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<v Speaker 0>then they, they can do amazing things, but they can

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<v Speaker 0>also be amazingly risky and dangerous as far as some

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<v Speaker 0>of the outcomes, OK?

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<v Speaker 0>And here at the bottom is kind of, you can

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<v Speaker 0>click on that, that'll take you to the Center for

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<v Speaker 0>Humane Technology, their website.

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<v Speaker 0>You're one of the people I follow and trust.

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<v Speaker 0>I'm gonna hand over to Becca.

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<v Speaker 0>Uh, at this point, she's just gonna talk about the

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<v Speaker 0>10 critical considerations for youth development and mental health in

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<v Speaker 0>the digital world.

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<v Speaker 0>Um, let me just scroll down real quick.

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<v Speaker 0>At the very bottom, which we're not gonna talk about,

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<v Speaker 0>I just wanted to, um, we, we kind of synthesize

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<v Speaker 0>these recommendations from the theorists and theoretical orientations that are

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<v Speaker 0>at the bottom of this list, and so there's, these

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<v Speaker 0>are things that I think we teach in our program

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<v Speaker 0>quite often.

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<v Speaker 0>They're very popular.

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<v Speaker 0>I think they've endured the test of time.

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<v Speaker 0>And so these kind of come from that, but uh

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<v Speaker 0>Becca, I'm gonna hand it over to you.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, so, um, I think about, um.

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<v Speaker 1>So much of this in context of youth mental health,

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<v Speaker 1>and just because that's the world I'm living in, and

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<v Speaker 1>even as Tang was talking about that, I was thinking,

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<v Speaker 1>um, one, when it comes to relationships, um, that so

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<v Speaker 1>often today, one of the presenting concerns that I see,

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<v Speaker 1>um, is so often people are, they feel so disconnected,

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<v Speaker 1>they feel so alone.

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<v Speaker 1>And, um, you know, we see so often that people

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<v Speaker 1>Now, I, I don't worry personally as a therapist that

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<v Speaker 1>people are going to long term turn to chat GPT

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<v Speaker 1>affirm.

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<v Speaker 1>Um, it doesn't have the, the skills for, um, pushing

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<v Speaker 1>It's a really good tool for the things that it

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<v Speaker 1>think it's really important to think about um that youth,

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<v Speaker 1>uh, they're developing through it.

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<v Speaker 1>And so like Tang was talking about, I'm also a

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<v Speaker 1>for kids today to think about, but they are developing

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<v Speaker 1>And so, like, you know, I, I had pre-technology existence,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I know how to live life without it.

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<v Speaker 1>Technology is here for these kids, and they are developing

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<v Speaker 1>through it.

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<v Speaker 1>And so how they process all of this is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be different than how I, as a middle-aged woman,

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<v Speaker 1>process it, um, and that is going to change how

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<v Speaker 1>we assess, how we interpret, and how we intervene.

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<v Speaker 1>And so, we have to keep those things in mind

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<v Speaker 1>that they have not lived in a world where this

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<v Speaker 1>technology does not exist, um.

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<v Speaker 1>And so, it, it is not just um using the

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<v Speaker 1>technology, it is developing, it is a a part of

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<v Speaker 1>that they are in, um, and so, Uh, keeping that

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<v Speaker 1>in mind, um, We want to make sure that we're

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<v Speaker 1>not just um looking at individual sys uh symptoms, but

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<v Speaker 1>we're looking at the full context and, and we're thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about things.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's really easy to go full like just

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<v Speaker 1>um cutting this out, but the reality is I tell

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<v Speaker 1>people all the time technology is here to stay.

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<v Speaker 1>technology is and how do we create safeguards, and also,

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<v Speaker 1>here to stay, and so we, we teach kids to

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<v Speaker 1>live in a world where technology is, and, um, help

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<v Speaker 1>them to be safe in the world where technology is

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<v Speaker 1>as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Um, I should have put on my glasses.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, so, the second part of that is, uh, we

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<v Speaker 1>have this cognitive development, uh, shapes digital interpretation, and so

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<v Speaker 1>youth cognitive development influences how they interpret digital content, and

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<v Speaker 1>that limited, uh, abstract reasoning can increase their susceptibility to

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<v Speaker 1>And so, for kids, this is their whole world, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think for me that's probably one of the hardest

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<v Speaker 1>things to grasp because in my mind, like, um, you

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<v Speaker 1>know, like I look and say this could be a

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<v Speaker 1>bot, this, uh, you know, like this is online, this

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<v Speaker 1>can be whatever, and for kids, like, you take away

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<v Speaker 1>their phone, um, you know, that connection to the outside

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<v Speaker 1>world that really can be a meltdown situation, um, or

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<v Speaker 1>for me, I could leave my car or my phone

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<v Speaker 1>in my car and walk away and Like, uh, it's,

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<v Speaker 1>it's inconvenient when I need my two-factor authentication, which is

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<v Speaker 1>all the time now, but like, other than that, that's

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<v Speaker 1>not the end of the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Um, but for kids, this really can feel like sort

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<v Speaker 1>of end of the world, um, you know, they're very

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<v Speaker 1>emotional reasoning, um, and so I think we have to

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<v Speaker 1>be very aware of what this does mean for them.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, in the confines of this is their connection, and

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<v Speaker 1>so, like, if you have, I was just talking to

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<v Speaker 1>somebody last week where they were talking about, um, you

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<v Speaker 1>know, everybody at their kids' table had had a phone

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<v Speaker 1>and their kid was the one kid without a phone,

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<v Speaker 1>and not having that connection, you know, they're sitting at

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<v Speaker 1>a table where everybody else had that connection and their

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<v Speaker 1>And so, you know, as a parent, then how do

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<v Speaker 1>you make that decision, like, what, what do we do?

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<v Speaker 1>And, and how do we have that connection when this

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<v Speaker 1>And so, um, I think The other side of that

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<v Speaker 1>is, um, Also just being mindful of what having a

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<v Speaker 1>phone really looks like in practicality too, like, um, Especially

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<v Speaker 1>when I say phone, I guess I, I, I'm sort

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<v Speaker 1>of assuming smartphone, but like understanding that if your kid

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<v Speaker 1>has a smartphone, they have unfettered access to everything, and

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<v Speaker 1>so they have unfettered access to pornography, they have unfettered

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<v Speaker 1>access, you know, to chatbots.

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<v Speaker 1>They have unfettered access, you know, there was a, a

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<v Speaker 1>case, uh, in the news, uh, there's been increasing cases

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<v Speaker 1>where you have seen.

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<v Speaker 1>Kids who are talking to character AI who has encouraged

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<v Speaker 1>them to die by suicide, and so you see more

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<v Speaker 1>and more of these cases where um These, uh, these

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<v Speaker 1>cases are, um, you know, these kids have this access

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<v Speaker 1>where they're developing these whole other worlds, these fantasies online,

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<v Speaker 1>um, that are taking place, and so again, we can't

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<v Speaker 1>just say all or nothing technology cause technology is here

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<v Speaker 1>to stay, but also being very mindful about what does

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<v Speaker 1>that mean, what does that look like in today's world,

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<v Speaker 1>and how do we put safeguards in place without just

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<v Speaker 1>completely cutting it off too.

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<v Speaker 1>Um, and then, thank you, uh, identified development is now

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<v Speaker 1>digitally, uh, mediated, and so, Just being mindful that, uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything.

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<v Speaker 1>When we are thinking about adolescence, when we're thinking about

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<v Speaker 1>digital platforms, um, that this process is more visible and,

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<v Speaker 1>um, Mm Just what does that mean for kids today,

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<v Speaker 1>um, to have that vulnerability, um.

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<v Speaker 1>And I, I think about this, where kids have so

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<v Speaker 1>much pressure about everything online, and they also, to me,

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<v Speaker 1>I, I'm big into brain development and thinking about where

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<v Speaker 1>kids are and um just working in middle school and

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<v Speaker 1>high school specifically, and thinking about the long term ramifications

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<v Speaker 1>that they, their brains just are not wired for the

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<v Speaker 1>decisions that they're making when it comes to Um, the

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<v Speaker 1>things that they are posting online, um, or even just

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<v Speaker 1>sending to a friend, you know, they're putting these things

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<v Speaker 1>like Tang mentioned, you know, especially when Snapchat first came

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<v Speaker 1>out, that was a big problem.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw a lot of kids were posting things on

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<v Speaker 1>Snapchat and not having an awareness that people could screenshot

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<v Speaker 1>this and it could come back later and sort of

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<v Speaker 1>haunt them, you know, years down the line, um, for

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<v Speaker 1>things that they put out.

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<v Speaker 1>Um, I've seen a case, uh, I used to use

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<v Speaker 1>as a case study with my students where somebody was

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<v Speaker 1>fired for something that he tweeted and when he was

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<v Speaker 1>in middle school.

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<v Speaker 1>Um, you know, some slurs that later was fired.

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<v Speaker 1>He got a very prestigious job.

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<v Speaker 1>It was in the news.

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody went back on his Twitter and um was like,

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<v Speaker 1>hey, is this you?

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<v Speaker 1>And, you know, tagged his employer and he was fired

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<v Speaker 1>from it.

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<v Speaker 1>And so, just, you know, these kids are making these

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<v Speaker 1>decisions, and when they're young and not having this awareness

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<v Speaker 1>of what this vulnerability can mean years down the road,

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<v Speaker 1>and so, Being mindful of that, and, and as adults

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<v Speaker 1>having those conversations, I think that's sometimes hard cause I

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<v Speaker 1>think, you know, kids don't wanna have those conversations.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, you know, that's the thing when I talk

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<v Speaker 1>to parents, like when my kid doesn't want to talk

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<v Speaker 1>to me about this, I'm like, I'm sure they don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Um, and also this is part of the responsibility of

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<v Speaker 1>having the cell phone, you know, this is part of

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<v Speaker 1>this responsibility of having technology is like, we're gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>this conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>Um, you know, as, as a child in my house,

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<v Speaker 1>This phone is not going to go to your bedroom

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<v Speaker 1>at night, you know, we're going to have a docking

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<v Speaker 1>rules about what does it mean to have this cell

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<v Speaker 1>Um, I'm going to have your passwords, things like that

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<v Speaker 1>that are just reasonable expectations.

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<v Speaker 1>And so, and then as you age, some of those

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<v Speaker 1>guardrails come off a little bit, so that when they

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<v Speaker 1>Um, Then social learning is digitally amplified in spaces where

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<v Speaker 1>peers, influencers, and algorithms model behaviors that can rapidly shape

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<v Speaker 1>One of the things that just so concerns me about

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<v Speaker 1>Um, and I, I follow an influencer.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh she said this woman uh goes to, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what she promotes, but anyway, she does these

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<v Speaker 1>all of the things, um, and this woman has a

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<v Speaker 1>Um, I see that all the time, you know, in

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<v Speaker 1>my first life as an educator, I saw that all

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<v Speaker 1>all these.

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<v Speaker 1>you're never teaching.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, that's just not the reality of education in America.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think, uh, you know, as an adult, I

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<v Speaker 1>have the rational brain, you know, my, my prefrontal frontal

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<v Speaker 1>But if you are a 1213, 14 year old, or

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<v Speaker 1>social media, younger and younger, they don't have the brainpower

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<v Speaker 1>to tell them that.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I think, again, as adults, that's partly where

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<v Speaker 1>we come in to say, you know, you see things

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<v Speaker 1>Other people, they, it looks Like this is true.

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<v Speaker 1>Um, and so I think it's a reminder for all

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<v Speaker 1>Um, and I, I was telling Tang, I had a

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<v Speaker 1>story of this in my own life where I took

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<v Speaker 1>of the worst days of my life, um, and, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, it was just something like I, I was having

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<v Speaker 1>Um, and somebody, uh, posted a comment that said something

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<v Speaker 1>well for you, and I just was like, in that

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<v Speaker 1>didn't talk to you, but I think that goes back

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<v Speaker 1>mile wide inch deep, you know, we have this really

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<v Speaker 1>one of the things that social media, you know, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of good things.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in contact today with a lot of people I

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<v Speaker 1>social media.

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<v Speaker 1>And it fosters a lot of fake connection, um, and,

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of very surfacey connection.

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<v Speaker 1>mindful of that, and especially when we're talking to kids,

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<v Speaker 1>um, and, and encouraging them about their usage of social

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<v Speaker 1>Um, oh, you're Uh OK, thanks.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, um, that belonging attachment comparison, I think that

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<v Speaker 1>What I was just talking about is people want to

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<v Speaker 1>everybody else has.

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<v Speaker 1>Um, I'll never forget I did a middle school group,

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<v Speaker 1>um, and one day I had a kiddo who came

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<v Speaker 1>she felt, and then the next day another person in

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like the rest of them feel like, you

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we tend to look at ourselves in the

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<v Speaker 1>And so, uh, one of the things with social media

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<v Speaker 1>Um, and so it doesn't feel as much, uh, for

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<v Speaker 1>And the problem is they may never ever get away

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<v Speaker 1>So, you know, back in the 80s and 90s when

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<v Speaker 1>Now, kids don't have a safe place because they have

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<v Speaker 1>And so it might be 3 or 4 o'clock in

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<v Speaker 1>I think they feel a lot of that online, and

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we're looking at this through attachment needs and

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<v Speaker 1>have this as a need.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, um, moral development is still emerging online.

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<v Speaker 1>Um, again, that moral reasoning, the digital environments is introducing

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<v Speaker 1>that complex ethical situation that often exceeds their developmental readiness

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<v Speaker 1>Their prefrontal cortex isn't yet developed, and so, um, I

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<v Speaker 1>think this is where having these discussions come in is

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<v Speaker 1>Schools are doing more with um classes that involve how

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<v Speaker 1>because we're putting a lot of power in kids' hands

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<v Speaker 1>when we talk about technology.

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<v Speaker 1>Um, and again, the technology is here to stay.

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<v Speaker 1>Um, and I think technology can be really good, but

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<v Speaker 1>helpful too.

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<v Speaker 1>Um, Learning is socially and digitally motivated, and it is

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<v Speaker 1>inherently social.

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<v Speaker 1>Digital platforms are now function as primary environments where youth

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<v Speaker 1>Um.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, you know, I think just uh talking to kids,

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<v Speaker 1>figuring out like where do they go for answers.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, one of the things that's really interesting today is

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<v Speaker 1>if you do talk to kids about where they go

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<v Speaker 1>for answers, um, so often it is things like chat

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<v Speaker 1>It is AI, you know, like they don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>They don't, you know, that goes back to that comparison.

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<v Speaker 1>And so, they want that connection, and so I can

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<v Speaker 1>ask a robot.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not gonna hurt my feelings, it's not gonna judge

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<v Speaker 1>Um, and so, I can get that answer, and, um,

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<v Speaker 1>uh, and I can actually come off reasonably smart sounding.

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<v Speaker 1>It, it does get things wrong, but most of the

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<v Speaker 1>time it's, uh, it, you know, for simple things anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>And so, we wanna make sure, um, that we are

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<v Speaker 1>having those questions with kiddos.

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<v Speaker 1>Um, competence with mastery impact mental health, um, A sense

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<v Speaker 1>of competence and mastery is critical for healthy development, and

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<v Speaker 1>digital successes or failures can significantly influence confidence, motivation, and

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<v Speaker 1>mental health in practice.

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<v Speaker 1>Assess where you feel effective and where they feel inadequate

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<v Speaker 1>online, and this is going to require a significant conversation

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<v Speaker 1>because I think if you just had a surface level.

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<v Speaker 1>Conversation, I think kids be like, yeah, I feel fine.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you use this, um, and, and digging in

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit deeper than just sort of, uh, how

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<v Speaker 1>do you feel, um, because kids just generally are gonna

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<v Speaker 1>Feels good.

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<v Speaker 1>Um, technology simultaneously, uh, connects and harms, and this to

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<v Speaker 1>some connection here.

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<v Speaker 1>So again, I don't think we can just take it

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think we can just be like, nope, no

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<v Speaker 1>Um, I, I think there are times where technology can

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<v Speaker 1>be really good, and also it can create significant risk,

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<v Speaker 1>um, and so at the same time, and so, um,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it is really about having some ground rules.

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<v Speaker 1>um guardrails and teaching kids how to use technology in

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<v Speaker 1>a really healthy way.

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<v Speaker 1>Um, that again, sort of scales up just like we

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<v Speaker 1>do with anything, you know, you don't want a kid

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<v Speaker 1>and so by the time that they leave home that

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<v Speaker 1>the same with technology.

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<v Speaker 1>Um, and then development is uneven and nonlinear, and to

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<v Speaker 1>be honest, this is true with all things, right?

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be times where they make mistakes, and then, you

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<v Speaker 1>be times where they come back and they're gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>like, oh, you know what, actually, um, you were right

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<v Speaker 1>about that.

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<v Speaker 1>They might not say that for like 20 years, but,

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<v Speaker 1>um, but they will eventually, hopefully.

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<v Speaker 1>Um, they'll, they'll say it to me, they'll say it

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<v Speaker 1>to the therapist, uh, they might not say it to

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<v Speaker 1>you.

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<v Speaker 1>Um, I'll tell you, uh, but they will, um, you

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<v Speaker 1>know.

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<v Speaker 1>Eventually they'll get there, that readiness to navigate, um, and

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<v Speaker 1>so I think in practice that means the technical skill,

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<v Speaker 1>I think kids have that, you know, they, they are

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<v Speaker 1>savvy, they know how to do the thing, so it's

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<v Speaker 1>not a matter of figuring out how to use the

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<v Speaker 1>technology.

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<v Speaker 1>Technically, they know that, they know that better than us,

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<v Speaker 1>right?

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<v Speaker 1>Um, but it is the, how do we be smart

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<v Speaker 1>about it?

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<v Speaker 1>How do we use this developmentally appropriately?

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<v Speaker 1>How do we do this side of things?

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<v Speaker 1>And also, you know, when, when they do mess up,

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<v Speaker 1>how do we frame that in a way that is

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<v Speaker 1>learning, you know, so that they can grow in the

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<v Speaker 1>future, and how do they, how do we teach them

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<v Speaker 1>in a way that helps them to understand?

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<v Speaker 1>So it's not punitive as as it is developmental.

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<v Speaker 0>Thanks, Becca.

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<v Speaker 0>I'm gonna, um, jump in.

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<v Speaker 0>We have about, I'm gonna, we have about 10 minutes

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<v Speaker 0>and then I wanna just kind of leave some time

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<v Speaker 0>for questions, um, practical responses.

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<v Speaker 0>Uh, there's just no easy solutions with this, everyone, because

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<v Speaker 0>it's so embedded in our lives, and our culture, within

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<v Speaker 0>our kids our kids' development, and so I'm just gonna

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<v Speaker 0>break this up into two different pieces, um, On the

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<v Speaker 0>first one I'm gonna talk about, um, John Gottman's, it's

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<v Speaker 0>not necessarily for youth development, but I feel like.

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<v Speaker 0>It just made sense to me, but I'm gonna talk

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<v Speaker 0>about business connection with you and your kids, and when

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<v Speaker 0>I say your kids, I'm talking about that from the

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<v Speaker 0>educators standpoint of the kids that you work with, but

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<v Speaker 0>also your own kids and then all of us as

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<v Speaker 0>far as collective action goes.

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<v Speaker 0>Right now, we're in a collective, Jon, Jonathan Haidt talks

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<v Speaker 0>about it, we're in a collective action problem, especially with

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<v Speaker 0>social media.

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<v Speaker 0>All the kids are doing it.

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<v Speaker 0>How do we get out of that?

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<v Speaker 0>And so the only way he talks about as far

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<v Speaker 0>as solving collective action issues is through collective action.

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<v Speaker 0>I'll talk about that in a second.

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<v Speaker 0>OK.

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<v Speaker 0>I'm gonna kind of breeze through this.

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<v Speaker 0>Um, John Gottman bids for connection.

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<v Speaker 0>I thought, um, Basically, Godman talks about this idea of

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<v Speaker 0>bids for connection as the fundamental unit of emotional connection.

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<v Speaker 0>Basically, he talks about this idea, over his 50 years

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<v Speaker 0>of research, talks about this idea of this is kind

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<v Speaker 0>of how relationships are built or destroyed through this idea

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<v Speaker 0>of um uh bids for connection.

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<v Speaker 0>So a bid, I'm sorry, it could be um verbal,

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<v Speaker 0>nonverbal, serious or funny, it could be small questions.

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<v Speaker 0>Some of them are explicit, some of them are kind

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<v Speaker 0>of overt, some of them are very covert, and so

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<v Speaker 0>you kinda have to pay attention with that.

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<v Speaker 0>Responses, you can turn towards, you can just respond.

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<v Speaker 0>If so a kid makes a comment, for example, a

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<v Speaker 0>kid makes a comment about a particular thing that they're

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<v Speaker 0>looking online, you can actually respond to that or you

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<v Speaker 0>can do the other thing here, turn away and then

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<v Speaker 0>um turn away.

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<v Speaker 0>This is interesting because John Gottman talks about this idea

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<v Speaker 0>of turning away is actually even worse than the last

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<v Speaker 0>one, turning against, because in turning against, there actually is

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<v Speaker 0>a response and so in, in a, in a very

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<v Speaker 0>Maybe not helpful way, you are actually giving attention to

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<v Speaker 0>a kid, where turning away this idea of ignoring this

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<v Speaker 0>idea of apathy, that is the worst form of um

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<v Speaker 0>disengagement with, with a person is to not care, OK?

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<v Speaker 0>Um, I'm not gonna talk really much more about that.

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<v Speaker 0>With youth, what does it matter and how does, how

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<v Speaker 0>does it kind of relate to kids?

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<v Speaker 0>Youth bids for connection in a technically digit uh uh

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<v Speaker 0>social media, AI technically digitated, uh, digitally mediated culture, they're

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<v Speaker 0>indirect versus explicit.

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<v Speaker 0>They're behavioral rather than verbal, and they're easy to misinterpret.

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<v Speaker 0>Or to miss, all right.

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<v Speaker 0>Over, here's some examples.

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<v Speaker 0>The ones that are obvious.

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<v Speaker 0>Can I show you something?

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<v Speaker 0>Asking questions, seeking attention, subtle bids often missed, sharing a

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<v Speaker 0>meme video or post, and a, and a parent, I'm

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<v Speaker 0>a parent of, of, of teenagers.

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<v Speaker 0>Um, I have 3 of them myself, you know, and

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<v Speaker 0>so like it's easy to just ignore or not care

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<v Speaker 0>Sitting nearby without speaking, that's a kid.

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<v Speaker 0>often misinterpreted irritability, will you engage with me?

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<v Speaker 0>Excessive screen use.

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<v Speaker 0>This is where I feel connection, right?

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<v Speaker 0>And so that's why they're doing that.

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<v Speaker 0>Why this matters for youth, this idea of, uh, youth

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<v Speaker 0>being developmentally wired for connection belonging being seen, of course,

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<v Speaker 0>right?

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<v Speaker 0>When bids are missed or ignored, disconnection increases, when they're

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<v Speaker 0>met, trust and regulation increase.

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<v Speaker 0>Clinical practice.

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<v Speaker 0>Most problem behaviors in our work are unmet bids for

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<v Speaker 0>This is from John Gobin's work.

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<v Speaker 0>I think it is absolutely applicable to our work with

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<v Speaker 0>kids.

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<v Speaker 0>The task is not just behavior management.

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<v Speaker 0>The task is to recognize and respond to the bid

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<v Speaker 0>that is underneath.

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<v Speaker 0>So all relationships are built through this process of making

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<v Speaker 0>or responding to bids.

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<v Speaker 0>Here's John Gottman's kind of um seminal work with that

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<v Speaker 0>and then also a connection to is you can click

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<v Speaker 0>on this.

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<v Speaker 0>This is, this is uh Gottman Institute.

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<v Speaker 0>OK.

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<v Speaker 0>The collective, so that's kind of the individual, my suggestion,

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<v Speaker 0>my call for you at, at the individual level is

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<v Speaker 0>to think about how that works out in your practice

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<v Speaker 0>and your work with kids.

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<v Speaker 0>Um, as far as collective action.

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<v Speaker 0>This is where it's gonna be much more difficult, and

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<v Speaker 0>this is kinda where, where we have to kinda get

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<v Speaker 0>this, and then there's hope with that, and I'll talk

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<v Speaker 0>about that in just a second.

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<v Speaker 0>Um, collective action, this idea of changing the conditions of

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<v Speaker 0>When individuals want to change behavior, but they feel like

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<v Speaker 0>It's common, you hear this all the time.

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<v Speaker 0>I can't do this.

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<v Speaker 0>I can't have my kid not have a phone because

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<v Speaker 0>one without one, right?

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<v Speaker 0>Social media accounts, same sort of thing.

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<v Speaker 0>Just to reframe for parents and for caregivers, and for

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<v Speaker 0>It's not an individual failure, it's a problem with the

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<v Speaker 0>norms, the systems, and the incentives, going back to the

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<v Speaker 0>I remember, um, listening to Tristan Harris from the Center

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<v Speaker 0>of uh Humane Technology talking about how with these companies,

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<v Speaker 0>This is, um, We're in Nebraska, so, uh, Charlie Munger

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<v Speaker 0>uh, in, in their business, and so he said, if

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<v Speaker 0>you show me the incentive, I will show the outcomes,

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<v Speaker 0>right?

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<v Speaker 0>And so the incentive of, of online continual engagement, um,

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<v Speaker 0>changes the norms and the systems that we kind of

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<v Speaker 0>exist in right now.

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<v Speaker 0>Uh, changing in policy, culture, and behavior through collective action.

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<v Speaker 0>I'll talk about what's happening with that in just a

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<v Speaker 0>second.

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<v Speaker 0>And here's kinda some of the collective action norms that

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<v Speaker 0>Jonathan Haidt in his book, The Anxious Generation, also would

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<v Speaker 0>recommend that.

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<v Speaker 0>He also has another book just came out in December

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<v Speaker 0>called The Amazing Generation, just kinda helping helping kids connect,

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<v Speaker 0>um, you know, to, to kinda move them away from

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<v Speaker 0>Um, but here's some of his suggestions, recommendations, and he's

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<v Speaker 0>doing a lot of work, uh, across the world with

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<v Speaker 0>this.

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<v Speaker 0>Reclaiming play.

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<v Speaker 0>I I, I can't say this enough.

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<v Speaker 0>I think, um, to, to again, to when Becca and

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<v Speaker 0>I grew up, this idea of independent play, settling things

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<v Speaker 0>then, that is missing today.

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<v Speaker 0>So reclaiming that independent time, trying to give kids responsibilities

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<v Speaker 0>again in in as much as, uh as much independent

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<v Speaker 0>responsibility as possible, that's very important.

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<v Speaker 0>Rebuilding real, real-world, um, community.

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<v Speaker 0>Trying to figure out how to do this in the

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<v Speaker 0>Delaying smartphones, he recommends, um, delaying smartphones at least till

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<v Speaker 0>high school, so kind of getting through a lot of

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<v Speaker 0>Um, so delaying that first smartphone, use a different kind

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<v Speaker 0>Gab phones, there's plenty of options out there that do

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<v Speaker 0>not connect to the internet, uh, in the way that

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<v Speaker 0>And then, um, delay social media, he has recommended worldwide

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<v Speaker 0>they're 16, and a lot of places, I'll talk about

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<v Speaker 0>that in a second, have been adopting that.

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<v Speaker 0>And then supporting structural change, advocacy advocacy for age verification

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<v Speaker 0>sorts of things, alignment with schools and community.

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<v Speaker 0>I'll talk about that in a second as well.

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<v Speaker 0>Um, why this matters, this is really the only way

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<v Speaker 0>that we're gonna get the, the youth on board is

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<v Speaker 0>if as adults, the adults in the rooms to help

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<v Speaker 0>make this stuff happen at all the levels that we

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<v Speaker 0>school level, as well as with community level, as well

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<v Speaker 0>as with policy law level.

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<v Speaker 0>I'll talk about that in a second.

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<v Speaker 0>Youth are our development is shaped by environments and so

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<v Speaker 0>collective action changes that environment, reducing the social pressure, protecting

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<v Speaker 0>difficulty of all the things that kind of um social

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<v Speaker 0>media and AI technology are bringing to their developmental uh

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<v Speaker 0>stages now and then restores opportunity for connection and autonomy

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<v Speaker 0>clinical practice.

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<v Speaker 0>Many families who struggle with technology, it's not about parenting

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<v Speaker 0>skills.

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<v Speaker 0>We have to get that out of our heads, OK?

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<v Speaker 0>They, it's about fighting a, a upstream current of misaligned

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<v Speaker 0>So the task is not just about managing behavior, it's

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<v Speaker 0>families, for example, in other communities.

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<v Speaker 0>Back up.

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<v Speaker 0>if we all move together.

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<v Speaker 0>And then, Here are all kind of the links to

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<v Speaker 0>um his work here, and then the more players on

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<v Speaker 0>the right-hand side, I'm gonna kind of Just let you

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<v Speaker 0>kinda look through that later.

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<v Speaker 0>Resources to kind of wrap up, um, I kinda broke

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<v Speaker 0>these into categories, technology, connection, vulnerabilities.

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<v Speaker 0>There's a lot here.

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<v Speaker 0>I can't go through all of them, but you can

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<v Speaker 0>kinda check through the, I, I kind of, um, Organize

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<v Speaker 0>them as best I could.

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<v Speaker 0>Here in Nebraska, um, there are several bills that are

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<v Speaker 0>out there that have already passed and that are also

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<v Speaker 0>passing.

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<v Speaker 0>I'm just gonna go down a second in the middle,

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<v Speaker 0>This one right here is actually from my daughter's high

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<v Speaker 0>school, so like this uh the Nebraska and many others,

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<v Speaker 0>most other states have kind of passed a no phones

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<v Speaker 0>in schools during school day, and during class time bill.

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<v Speaker 0>Um, and so that's happening all over the, the, the,

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<v Speaker 0>the country.

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<v Speaker 0>Um, so these are kind of the legislative legislative, uh,

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<v Speaker 0>legislative pieces.

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<v Speaker 0>Nationally, 31 states right here, 31, uh, states and DC

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<v Speaker 0>have limited bans on cellphones used in, in K through

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<v Speaker 0>12 classrooms.

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<v Speaker 0>Nebraska and Iowa, the closest here for, for, and then,

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<v Speaker 0>and then globally, Sweden was one of the, it's an

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<v Speaker 0>ones to go all in on screens and social media.

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<v Speaker 0>own country with their own kids.

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<v Speaker 0>They're pulling the plug on it all.

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<v Speaker 0>You know, so that's a, that's a case study here.

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<v Speaker 0>Australia, the, they, Australia, uh, many of these other, um,

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<v Speaker 0>countries are limiting social media access to 16 and 15.

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<v Speaker 0>Australia there, Indonesia here, Spain here, France here, Netherlands here.

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<v Speaker 0>And then, um, I just have some other I'm not

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<v Speaker 0>gonna go through all these, but then there's some other

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<v Speaker 0>resources, um, that can help us as practitioners to kind

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<v Speaker 0>of think about how we can integrate AI effectively and,

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<v Speaker 0>um, well as adults, as the adults in the room,

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<v Speaker 0>um.

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<v Speaker 0>So I'm gonna go ahead and just stop and then

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<v Speaker 0>the vulnerability, these, these are, um, all the things you

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<v Speaker 0>can kind of see here.

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<v Speaker 0>That's linked to chatbots.

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<v Speaker 0>This is from Wikipedia, but you can, you can go

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<v Speaker 0>there and kind of see all the things that are

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<v Speaker 0>happening.

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<v Speaker 0>AI psychosis is down at the bottom.

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<v Speaker 0>This is Jonathan Haidt's work right here.

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<v Speaker 0>Um, this third article, uh, is actually links to the

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<v Speaker 0>web page.

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<v Speaker 0>He's been doing research on social media and mental health,

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<v Speaker 0>especially with youth for the past, this is like a

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<v Speaker 0>400 page document that just collects all the research data.

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<v Speaker 0>And as far as he's concerned, there is an absolute

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<v Speaker 0>causation linked to the way that social media has impacted

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<v Speaker 0>and, and been detrimental to the, the development of youth.

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<v Speaker 0>So, other colleagues, um, that will, in my, uh, in

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<v Speaker 0>the other three presentations, they'll be kind of, um, talking

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<v Speaker 0>about some of those things more, OK?

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<v Speaker 0>Um, no.

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<v Speaker 0>All right, I know we'll have a couple of minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, Tang, one of the questions is, do we have

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<v Speaker 1>a, uh, one page information sheet, um.

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<v Speaker 1>To share with parents for digital education safety.

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<v Speaker 1>Um, I don't know if we have one.

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<v Speaker 1>We could probably come up with one.

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<v Speaker 0>I mean, Um, I don't have one made, but I

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<v Speaker 0>could easily make one if that's something that someone's interested

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<v Speaker 0>in.

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<v Speaker 0>I think that would be great.

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<v Speaker 0>Uh, parents are always looking for these sorts of things,

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<v Speaker 0>um, and I think that would be a really Uh,

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<v Speaker 0>easy way to kind of start those conversations with parents

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<v Speaker 0>for sure.

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<v Speaker 0>Let me, and so, um, Sam just asked a question.

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<v Speaker 0>I just put that in the chat, the presentation link

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<v Speaker 0>again.

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<v Speaker 0>This is the presentation link I have over here.

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<v Speaker 0>I'm not, I don't have time to go over all

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<v Speaker 0>this, but Sherry Turkle, um, has been doing research on

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<v Speaker 0>human connection to technology for decades as well.

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<v Speaker 0>Um, she's coming out with a book in September called

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<v Speaker 0>Artificial Intimacy.

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<v Speaker 0>She thinks that is gonna be the new AI, um,

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<v Speaker 0>and just kind of the attachment to human-like, how human-like,

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<v Speaker 0>um, attachment to human-like AI erodes our humanity, um.

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<v Speaker 0>So I think that is it.

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<v Speaker 0>Does anyone have any last-minute questions?

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<v Speaker 0>I also wanna just put down here in the, in

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<v Speaker 0>the final slide, it's kind of our information and then

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<v Speaker 0>just the link to the flyer that has the um

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<v Speaker 0>link to the other presentations that are coming up in

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<v Speaker 0>the next few weeks, OK?

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<v Speaker 0>So I'll actually start off with this slide here, and

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<v Speaker 0>then um just if there's a question or two that

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<v Speaker 0>we can maybe respond to.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of great things popping in the chat.

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<v Speaker 2>I wanna say thank you for this awesome presentation.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope you have a chance to to scroll through

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<v Speaker 2>what the comments are, but one seems to be pretty

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<v Speaker 2>pragmatic, uh, one pragmatic question keeps coming up, which is

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<v Speaker 2>how do I access these slides after the fact?

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<v Speaker 2>So, can you all share some insights into, uh, the

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<v Speaker 2>best way to continue using these resources down the line?

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<v Speaker 0>Uh, again, you, as I mentioned, like, there's a lot

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<v Speaker 0>there, and I, I'll, I'll put the link and then

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<v Speaker 0>this, I think this is gonna be recorded too, Katie,

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<v Speaker 0>so you can have access to this recording, but then

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<v Speaker 0>also the presentation.

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<v Speaker 0>Um, contact Becca or myself, we would love to have

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<v Speaker 0>a longer conversation about how these things can maybe be

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<v Speaker 0>more applicable to you at the practice.

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<v Speaker 0>Um, level, because I mean, I'm, I'm, I'm working, I,

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<v Speaker 0>I'm working with our university to kind of figure out

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<v Speaker 0>how to deploy AI responsibly, ethically, professionally across the university

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<v Speaker 0>here, but I'm always trying to help parents and in

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<v Speaker 0>schools and families do that again because it is a

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<v Speaker 0>complicated issue, right?

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<v Speaker 0>And so we'd have, we'd love to kind of have

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<v Speaker 0>a further conversation with you as far as how to

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<v Speaker 0>And I think the uh maybe the upcoming presentations might

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<v Speaker 0>have a little bit more on that too.

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